Episode 128 – Equipment review – Push Alpha pack quiver

I know this is a review that many of my followers have been waiting for ever since I announced I had bought one of the Push Alpha packs a few months back. I said then I would do an honest review of the quiver and having used it now for several months I think I am in a position to do just that.  

You can read the full review below and check out the video.

Like many I have traditionally used a large leather field quiver for years and whilst it has worked well, it’s now showing its age. It’s been patched a few times where the stitching has gone and now the zip for main pouch is broken.  Whilst quivers like these are great for the number of arrows they can hold as well as looking good. The upside of the size is also a downside of the quiver, as it’s size and weight can make it quite tiring to carry over a full day or two of shooting a field course.

In contrast the Alpha pack is considerably lighter and appears quite small in comparison, but looks can prove deceiving.

So, what were my first impressions?

It is really well made, with strong double stitching throughout. It comes in a variety of colours, mine being red or wine I think is the official definition. I do love the colour (being Welsh that not surprising I like the red. If you don’t know the Welsh flag is a red dragon).

It’s worth noting there are some similar quivers on the market and I know a few people who have modified motorcycle leg pouches to do a similar job. This would imply that the core design must work well and based on my experiences with the Alpha pack I have to agree.

Second thing I noticed was how much it can hold. I was surprised at how much the pack can carry considering how small it appeared. It can carry lots without you feeling encumbered.

One concern I had was how well it would sit on the leg, but once you have adjusted your belt and leg strap it proved surprisingly comfortably.

Shooting at NFAS 3D championships

Another thing about the design is it’s very clever as it does not matter if you are a righthanded or lefthanded archer as you can wear it on the left or right leg easily. Unlike other quiver designs, you don’t have to have a left- or right-hand model.

One thing I have not been able to test is its waterproofness. I can’t testify to how water proof or water resistant it is as the UK has been encountering a warmer and dryer Spring and Summer, with temperatures in the high 20s and low 30s and little if no rain to speak of for several weeks.

Quiver fully open
Quiver fully open

I like the fact I can open the quiver up completely. Inside there is one large zip net pouch and 2 smaller pouches. You might notice a green box in the video as this is curtesy of one of my club members Sam, who has made a 3D printed box that fits perfectly in one of the smaller pouches. In this box I keep spare points, string etc. I’ll do a review of these boxes later, as he has created several boxes of different sizes that work incredibly well.

2 smaller inner pouches
2 smaller inner pouches

One thing I have taken to do is leaving the quiver open slightly so I can easily reach in and grab the binoculars if I need them. To ensure the zip doesn’t accidentally open further, I’ve looped the cord loops through the pack’s top straps. This prevents the zip moving.

One modification I am looking at is some form of flap to go over the back to cover the large zip opening and could be easily lifted or rolled up when not in use. As I said earlier I tend to leave the zip open for ease of access to my binoculars and want to ensure the content is kept dry.

close up showing arrow tubes
close up showing arrow tubes

I’ve made an arrow holder out of some plastic tubes, (shown in the above photo), so I can easily store my first, second and third arrow, it also makes it easier in selecting them.

I only carry the 3 arrows in the quiver, the rest are held in an arrow tube on my back as this keeps them out of the way and as I use feather fletching dry. I’ve used an arrow tube on my back for years. This isn’t to say the quiver can’t carry more arrows, as before I made the holding tubes I had 6 of the carbon legacy fit in. The only hassle was turning to pick the right arrow in sequence.

How does it cope in the field and woods?

Simple answer is really, really well. Once you have the leg strap adjusted to you, it sits really well and is comfortable on your leg and waist. Being quite a short quiver compared to my old one it doesn’t catch on undergrowth while walking round through the wood.

The only downside I’ve found is if I find any missing arrows or if collecting them the target for the rest of the group, I have to hold them in my hand as don’t fit easier in quiver, partly due to me fitting the narrow tubes in the quiver that only hold one 11/32 wooden shaft in each. That’s not a fault of the quiver design.

Price and shipping

I will be honest I was nervous about spending that much on a quiver I had not been able to get my hands on physically to look at and try on, but it was to be a present to myself following redundancy. It retails for £109 on the Push site plus postage.

From ordering it online from the Push store to it arriving, took only 10 days, yes 10 days to get across the Atlantic and to my door, which I was really impressed with, especially when you consider there was a UK public holiday included in the midst of this. I’ve had packages from the UK take longer.

In summary what would I say of the Alpha pack?

One thing I am a little disappointed in is I’ve not had the 10% increase in accuracy that Maddy on Instagram assured me would come with the Alpha pack. Then again maybe I just need a bit more time with it and a lot more practice. All joking aside let’s carry on with the review.

It’s fair to say I hate it, plain and simple. Why?  It’s a love hate relationship, as I both hate it and love it at the same time. Well I don’t truly hate the quiver, I hate the fact I didn’t buy one far earlier in my archery career.

For the same reason I love having it and using it. It works really well for me and in my view and experience so far it is well worth the money. So it is most definitely a more Love than hate relationship.

Would I recommend it to other field archers?

YES, I would definitely. I’ve had several club members ask what my opinion is on it and I have to say it’s great. The build quality is excellent and it stores loads, while remaining comfortable to wear.

I feel I must give it a 10 out of 10 based on my experiences so far.

The other thing is I feel proud to wear it. This may seem strange thing to say about a quiver, but The Push podcasts and material they have produced over the years has been a huge help to me both as an archer and coach. By buying this not only have I got a great quiver, but I’ve also been able to help them continue producing material for the trad community both in the USA and here in the UK. Thanks

As always thanks for reading.

Let’s talk about quivers

Jims bow against the tree

Jims bow against the tree

While I was writing the article on the traditional bowhunters style proposal in the NFAS recently, I got thinking about the different types of quivers that we use. This got me thinking about writing an article on the different types of quivers being used in archery.

There is almost as much variety in quivers as there are in bows, back quivers, bow quivers, field quivers and more. So what’s the appeal of one over another?  We know they come in all shapes and sizes and I got wondering as to what people use and why? To answer this or rather to get more insight I thought I’d turn to the great internet for help and specifically a Facebook group I belong to “Fellowship of the bow” which is mainly for traditional archers and it has a few thousand members. On the site I posted a simple poll and invited members contributions and thoughts on there. The feedback and response was awesome for which I’m very grateful.

The results from the poll are shown below and it is interesting in the sheer diversity of styles . The three most popular are in descending order, back, hip and then field quivers, though bow quivers were also very popular too. I’m also going to mention a mate of mine who has a quiver mounted on a walking stick, which offers both a method of carrying arrows and a useful aid when walking some field courses.

  • Back quivers 62
  • Hip 50
  • Field 47
  • Bow 37
  • Other 9
  • Target 6
  • Arrowbag 4
  • Native style 2
  • Historical 1
  • Walking stick 1
  • Personal caddy 1
  • Mongolian 1

What is very clear is the choice of quiver can be as personal as the choice of bows, some people love back quivers while others hate them and prefer the convenience of the bow quivers.

Often quivers are one of the first things that archers buy when they start shooting. When I first started I made a simple leather quiver, just enough to carry three or four of the arrows I owned.

Shortly after I got more seriously into the hobby I bought a leather field quiver out of a bargain basket at a local archery shop, when I really got hooked and I’ve been using it ever since. It is fairly standard as quivers of that kind go, with four tubes allowing you to carry 10-12 arrows if you ram them in, along with a couple of pockets for spare string, pens etc. and a belt loop. A while back I covered what I carry on a shoot (here is the link to it). Though it can carry more I tend to only carry 3 or 4 arrows in the quiver with the rest being kept in an arrow tube on my back. I have tried using a couple of back quivers, but never found one that has worked for me.

So lets’ have a brief look at the different types of quivers out there, some of the positives and negatives. I’ve drawn on my own experiences, along with feedback from the poll and comments from archers. So in no particular order lets’ start.

Bow quivers – these are quivers which are fitted direct to the bow, hence the name bow quiver and usually house 2-6 arrows.

The appeal of these tends to be associated with the convenience of having everything to hand on the bow, resulting in less to carry. The other thing that many commented on was the lack of noise with this form, with none of the rattling of arrows as you walk round the wood. I have to say that they can look good. What is interesting is that some people seem to use these in conjunction with a field or back quiver to carry spare arrows.

I find it interesting that some people commented on how they add a bit of stability to the bow, while others say it makes no difference. I know that this has been debated on a number of occasions but having never used one I can’t say one way or another.  My only point of concern is the positioning of the quivers. You need to ensure they don’t impede the flex of the limbs.

As I’ve said I’ve never used a bow quiver but I can see the appeal for the convenience, they can look very cool too on the right bow.  Though I wouldn’t fit one on my flat bow I think I would put one on my recurve.

Back quiver – so these are worn on the back, though you might have guessed this by the name, it does kind of give it away. I’m going to group back quivers with those that are small backpacks with integral quivers here too. These small back packs are a bit like camel packs that house arrows along with a few other bits.

The appeal of back quivers appears to be a mix of practicality and looks. As one person said it’s quite a romantic look.  A few people commented on the fact they prefer back quivers as they don’t like stuff hitting their leg or around their waste.

I’ve tried using a couple of different back quivers and never got on with the ones I have used, as they always seemed to move too much on my shoulder. I’d struggle to stop the arrows falling out when I bent over, or catch them on the tree branches.

The big advantage of this style can be it leaves your hands free and all the weight is on your shoulders rather than your waist.

From comments and my own experience 3 point connection seems to work best for comfort, practicality wise too, as comments imply they rest better on the shoulders.

One design feature that was mentioned was having a back quiver made from a material that is sufficiently flexible so when you bend over the material, say leather, flexes holding the arrows so they don’t fall out when you bend. Makes a lot of sense as this is something that puts a lot of people off using them, including myself.

One interesting thing that was mentioned, and I have seen, are some back quivers which have a slit in the side which you draw arrows from, rather than drawing them from over your shoulder.

Target quivers – tend be a little smaller than other quivers and not necessarily designed to accommodate the large numbers of arrows or larger diameter arrow like 11/32 wooden shafts that you tend to use in field archery.

Field quivers  – these allow you to carry a few more bits and pieces, mine has a couple of pouches where I carry spare string, pens, string wax, whistle etc. check out my article on what I carry on a field shoot for more details.

The downside of field quivers tends to be there size and potential weight on one side of your body. This was something that was raised by a couple of people on the poll, along with disliking the way they hit your leg as you are walking. I know for me I tend to have my hand on my quiver when walking to stop it knocking my leg.

I’ve stuck with a field quiver for most of my archery life so far, though I have modified mine slightly by replacing the belt I use and using a Bohning Rigid Shooters Belt for more comfort.

Choice of types of quivers is just one thing, you then have the materials they are constructed from. Though in essence we have traditional leather verse modern materials, its worth remembering other materials have been used for quivers, including cloth ones. But I think that is another area of discussion, some people like the modern materials, others like what they see as the more traditional look and feel of leather.

Many modern material quivers, especially the backpack style offer effective weather proofing and are waterproof. This is really important to remember as I know on a couple of shoots in poor weather where I’ve literally turned my quiver upside down to empty the water out. I also had to empty all the contents of the pouches to let it dry out completely. It’s worth remembering that your quiver encounters the same weather conditions as you, so remember to waterproof them.

Another advantage to modern fabric quivers are they tend to be lighter, something to consider if you are carrying all day around a field course.

One problem you can have with selecting the right quiver is in some ways the same as with bows, i.e. the price. The cost can vary as widely as the designs. Of course you can pick up quivers for a few pounds from most archery shops or the internet, but likewise quivers can be quite expensive, especially if you go for custom leather ones.

For me I think I’ll stick with my field quiver on my belt for now and my arrow tube on my back. It works for me. Much as I would like to have a back quiver, I can’t seem to find one that works for me.

Me at the wood

The choice is such a personal thing, but at the end of the day find something that works for you, so long as it can carry your arrows, does it matter if it’s on your bow, back or attached to your belt.

Thanks for reading.