Distance judgement and using a rangefinder in archery

By far one of the most common questions I’m asked by new and sometimes experienced archers is concerning distance judgement and how to improve accuracy at varying distances in their shooting. Many will start shooting at a target of 15 to 20 yards and when presented with longer shots struggle. Over the years I’ve found many experienced archers all have a distance they struggle to shoot accurately.

How far is this shot?

As an introduction to the concept of distances and my use of rangefinder as a supportive tool I’d like you to watch the following video, showing 2 different distances to the same 3D target. One is from the Red peg (where an adult shoots their first arrow and normally furthest distance from the target). The other is from the Blue peg, the peg from which an adult would shoot their third arrow (last arrow) and is normally the closest peg to the target. In the video you will see a couple of other coloured pegs (yellow and orange) these are junior pegs.

Can you estimate how far these shots are? I know it’s harder to do from a video than in real life, but take a guess.

How did you get on? Did you manage to judge the distances?

Speaking to other archers I know several instinctive shooters, who past a certain distance, swap to some form of gapping as they don’t feel comfortable with their distance judgement past 40 yards.

To clarify before I go any further. I shoot the vast majority of my time under the NFAS organisation. Unlike other societies NFAS is entirely unmarked distances which means not only do you have to have good form and tuned equipment, but you also have to have an ability to read the ground, in order to judge the distance to your target.

When competing you can’t use a range finder of any description, as everything is shot on unmarked distances. Though you can use binoculars if you wish so long as there is no range finding facility inbuilt obviously.

This means if you want to score well, you need not only be able to shoot well, but also have a method to judge distances. Whether, consciously via gapping or subconsciously via instinctive / intuitive 

In this article I am not going to be covering gap shooting techniques or instinctive shooting (you can check out some of the material I’ve produced on this another time)

In this I’m going to talk about the use of a rangefinder as a tool for both course laying and improving your ability to judge distances. Even though I am an instinctive shooter I frequently use a rangefinder to develop my distance judgement.

You don’t need to be at an archery club to develop this skill in fact you probably do this every day when driving or cycling, as you are having to judge the distance to the vehicle in front of you to ensure you have time to react, brake, overtake etc.

Here is one useful technique to try out. It requires you to carry your rangefinder with you when out walking your dog or on the way to work. You can pick a tree or lamppost in the distance, making a mental note as to how far you think it is and then check the actual distance using your rangefinder. You will be surprised how quickly you will begin to be more and more accurate in your estimations.

An alternative to this technique is to pick a point in the distance but rather than try to estimate the distance, you immediately range it. You then know the distance and try to work out why it is that distance. The advantage with this method is your brain will know what it is straight away so you aren’t trying to correct a misread distance.

How rangefinders help coaching archers

For years I have carried a rangefinder when coaching. As an instinctive shooter I find it hard to consciously judge distances or rather put a number to that distance, e.g. 23 yards. I tend to think its between 23 to 25 yards. So, I carry the rangefinder as a useful tool for more precision.

If I can give a student a definitive distance, they can either select their sight pin or identify their gap distance.

Course laying use.

When I go about setting a course it’s usually with a couple of club members. One of us will spot a shot line and another will move to a potential target location. I can then take a range measurement to that location.

You may wonder why I bother doing this, so allow me to explain

  1. It means we can log the distances for each shot on the course to check the balance of short, medium or long shots.
  2. It means we have an accurate record of the distance as a shot may look closer or further than it actually is thanks to the use of dead ground or vegetation.
  3. If anyone at our shoot queries or challenges distances we can provide a definitive and accurate response.

I’m sure there are other course layers who do this. I know some don’t and prefer to rely on their own judgement. I prefer to use the rangefinder to make sure the distance is accurate and I have a record of it.

How can you develop distance judgement?

Technique 1 – half, then double

One technique I explain in the video is to pick what you think is a  mid-point to the target. How far is that? Lets same 10 yards. Then double that distance estimation, so in this case 20 yards. Take another look at the target. Does 20 yards sound right? Do you think it is further or closer?

If you have a rangefinder you can then range it and see how close you are.

The downside I have found with this technique is if you misjudge the initial mid point by a couple of yards,  then when you double the distance you double the mistake.

Technique 2 – 10/20/30

A second technique is when presented with a target, you first judge  what you feel is 10 yards to the target, then judge what another 10 yards towards the target would be, taking you to 20 yards in total. You then have to decided if you have reached your target, gone past the target or is it further? If further then ask yourself is it another 10 yards or less?

This technique can work pretty well on most targets, but can fall down if judging across large open ground or water.

The thing to remember is neither technique works 100% unless you practice it.

Do you use a rangefinder? If so let me know your thoughts. If you are interested in learning more about the rangefinder I use you can check out my review.

As always thanks for reading, supporting and following me. Take care and remember to enjoy your archery.

Episode 138 – with Chris Mussell talking archery in scouting

Happy Christmas everyone.

In this week’s episode I delighted to have as my guest Chris Mussell. Chris is a highly experienced archer as well as being heavily involved with the Scouting organisation in the UK,  specifically with respect to archery.

In the episode we explore how scouting approaches the challenging task of coaching young people but also training scout leaders to enable them to coach young people.

As always the episode is available on Spotify and Amazon music.

I feel this episode provides a really good insight into how the scouting organisation plans, runs and controls the rules of shooting for scouts and leaders. There are obvious similarities to National Field Archery Society events but also key differences, most noticeably the target selection. The scouting prohibits the use of any animal or human like targets, so no shooting zombies or 3D targets.

Of course we do tangent at times into other archery related topics, including chats about past events and campfire chats after festivals.

Thanks for listening and I would like to wish you all a fantastic Christmas and New Year.

Episode 137 – with Kristina Dolgilevica about the World Traditional Archery Federation

In this very special episode, I am delighted to welcome back Kristina Dolgilevica as a gest to the podcast.

Those of you who have been listening to the podcast for a few years might remember Kristina’s first guest slot back in episode 80. Then she had only just taken on the role of Editor for Bow International magazine. Now a couple of years on we discuss how the role has developed as Bow International celebrates its 30th year in publication, a huge milestone for any magazine.

Throughout the episode we discuss various coaching topics, focusing on the concept of Developments having no limits. thought the main focus of the discussion surrounds the World Traditional Archery Federation and the formation of the UK Traditional Archers’ International Association (UK-TAIA), contact detail of which are below.  

We chat about her hopes and aspirations for UK-TAIA in promoting not just competition but also the cultural heritages of the differing forms of traditional archery across the globe. The goal being to promote the association and the potential it has for highlighting the potential for engagement across countries and continents.

If you have any interest in traditional check out the website and reach out to Kristina

UK-TAIA – UK Traditional Archers’ International Association

Website: www.uk-taia.org

Contact: k.dolgilevica@uk-taia.org

Facebook: @ UK Traditional Archers’ International Association

Sadly we did encounter some technical issues when recording this episode due to a power cut part way through and subsequent Wi-Fi issues, but we got there in the end. I have to say a huge thanks to Kristina for her patience.

As always the podcast is available on Spotify and Amazon music.

As always thanks for listening. I hope you all have a great Christmas and New Year.