Shoot report – Long Eaton Field Archers – May 2015

Long Eaton

Long Eaton 2015

The standard joke about the British sense of humour is we always talk about the weather. In many ways this is true and I think the reason for this is it’s so changeable. Weather forecasts at the start of the week had promised heavy rain over the bank holiday Sunday and even up to Friday and Saturday it was forecasting rain. In reality we had a beautiful sunny spring day making me wish I had chosen lighter, cooler apparel but it make make for lovely shooting weather. Having said this the drive up the motorway was unpleasant with lots of standing water and some chaotic drivers pushing their luck and speed limits.  Anyway on to the shoot report.
We hadn’t been to Long Eaton Field Archers  (LEFA) for a year and were looking forward to catching up with some old faces.  It was great to see David chair of LEFA , Adrian from black arrow and others just a shame we did get to chat longer. Was also good to catch up with JT and the media legend that is Jim Grizzly Kent. Here are some links to  previous LEFA shoot reports May 2014, 2013
Due to the forecasts Long Eaton had quite a few no shows and this delayed the start of the event by a few minutes along with the extensive pre shoot briefing and peg changes due to the no shows. As it was there were over 130 archers present.
Like many clubs LEFA have seen part of their woodland felled and this has changed the look and feel of the grounds dramatically which I think has improved it. The new layout enables fresh shots and new possibilities. The only thing I would say is they need to be aware of tree canopy as on a couple of shots the trees made it difficult for low poundage bows but this is easily resolved with a little pruning or change of peg position. Something I am sure they will sort for next time.
The fine weather did mean I was able to take a few photos.
Cliff Shooting

Cliff Shooting

Our shooting group would be Cliff and Nadeem shooting longbow and hunting tackle respectively.
It was to be a 36 target course of 3d targets of all shapes and sizes from bison to small pheasants.
Cliff nicknamed the shoot the Noahs ark shoot due to the number of targets where you had to nominate which 3d target to go for. This was an interesting dynamic as it meant you have to consider which is easier or more suitable for you to shoot.

3D target behind tree stump

3D target behind tree stump

Talking of the 3d Bison it was set well in the open at about 65 yards.

Bison 3D target

Bison 3D target

They had two predator and prey shots and a moving target. Personally I think one predator prey shot is enough and if you do put it in then have second arrow scoring for prey so a maximum of 14 if you hit the prey. Otherwise it inflates the scores if you get two good kills as it is a possible 48 points on one target peg.
The shoot was a bit slow at times with us catching up the group in front but I think this was inevitable as it was a challenging course and I went to second and third arrows  more than a few times as did others. I think I had the luckiest shot of the group on a 3D with my arrow some how just holding in the target.

Lucky shot

Lucky shot

LEFA changed the format from past shoots, to a shoot through rather than lunch break which worked much better as it allowed us to time our breaks so groups in front could have more time.
Also it was nice to sit and chill out in the sun. Catering was as good as remembered with a selection of cakes to make Mr Kipping happy and hot food in form of baked potatoes, burgers etc.
I think overall the course layers did a good job with well placed targets and good use of ground.
The standing bear which you shot from a hollow worked well.

3D standing Bear

3D standing Bear

There was a lovely set 3d stag in the trees which looked so natural.

3D stag

3D stag

Really special thanks to Nadeem and Cliff who were really supportive and fabulous company to shoot round with. Some readers may know I am struggling to get my head in to shooting the flatbow at present and at one stage nearly stopped on Sunday but their support and friendly banter got me sorted. Thank guys and belated happy birthday Nadeem.

Full results for the shoot are available on LEFA website and here’s a link if you are interested.
Sharon came away with first in ladies hunting tackle and despite starting badly I managed to scrape away fourth place in afb I think through luck rather than skill. Congratulations to Nadeem on his second place too obviously the force is strong in you.
Thanks for reading.

Shoot Report – Long Eaton – May 2014

Archers at LEFA shoot

Archers at LEFA shoot

Last weekend we headed north towards Long Eaton club shoot in Leicestershire.
Despite it being a bank holiday weekend, the weather was good with bright sunshine and blue skies and no rain!! This meant I was able to get a load of photos this time unlike the Pride Park shoot at Easter.
The course was a full 40 3Ds and billed as a warm up for the NFAS 3D championships in a few weeks, which I think may have put some off attending as there were only about 120 or so attending, which was a shame as it was a great course.
You can see past shoot reports Summer Solstice 2013
The woods looked Lovely with all the bluebells out which made it a very picturesque setting.
Bluebells at Long Eaton wood

Bluebells at Long Eaton wood

The course layers had done a great job with very good target placement with some great use of the ground. The use of dead ground and the dips and hollows was excellent. Those that shot well earned their points.
I don’t think any shots were stretched though there weren’t any easy shots.

The bison looked great in a carpet of bluebells.
Bisson Shot

Bisson Shot

Another nice one was the owl half way up a tree.
3D owl shot

3D owl shot

LEFA second target

LEFA second target

Nice to see target bosses behind most of the 3Ds to catch wayward arrows and the fact they’d camouflaged them to make them less obvious meant they didn’t spoil the shot.
Sharon shooting at LEFA

Sharon shooting at LEFA

I’m not sure about some of the new small 3d targets they were trialing at the shoot though.  They look good but are quite dense.

Small 3D hare

Small 3D hare

Sharon broke an arrow hitting one and my only blank of the day was after I hit one 3 times in the chest and got 3 glance offs. Think the problem is the way they are moulded makes some areas very dense.
Having said this it is nice to see some new 3Ds and I liked the running hare. It is very hard for shoot organisers to source small targets and I know target 7 which we started on which was a small fish that you shot nearly vertically down to was shot out by the end of the day.
Speaking with a couple of other archers they had similar experiences. I also had the opportunity to speak to the organisers and I think they are going to review some of the smallest ones. Always good when organisers listen to feedback and Long Eaton appear to have done this based on the quality of this shoot.  Thanks guys and well done.

There were a couple of predator / prey shots  one using a lovely 3D pheasant taking flight from a big cat.
For those not familiar with predator prey shots they work like this. You shoot at the predator first and if you hit with your first arrow you get a chance to shoot the prey for bonus points.  Where I don’t mind the idea of bonus points or predator prey shots.
I’m not a fan of predator prey shots where you can score full points on the prey if you hit. Maybe a bonus 10 points if you hit the prey but I think it can open up too great a points difference if you can score up to 20 or 24 points on the prey. Hawk do these shots as second arrow scoring on the prey which is more balanced. Personal view and shouldn’t be seen as a criticism of the course.
In general the day flowed well with only a couple of hold ups at the predator prey shots which is normal.
Lucky shot at LEFA just held into target

Lucky shot at LEFA just held into target

I didn’t shoot well after lunch actually to be fair I was shooting pretty poorly at times which is a shame as it would be good to shoot the course when I was shooting well. Probably due to too much work and not enough practice. Sharon came away with a first in ladies hunting tackle

Think the only thing that could have made it a better shoot was to make it a shoot through and not have a lunch break, although the club don’t think this would be practical.
In all I think it would be fair to say it was one of the best courses they have put on if not the best. Well done all involved. Here’s hoping the 3D championships courses are as good.
Thanks, as always, for reading.

Shoot report – Long Eaton Summer Solstice

Well it was billed as the LEFA Summer Solstice Shoot,note the summer part, it didn’t feel like summer. Windy with some very heavy showers it felt very autumnal as we arrived.

This weather made the shoot very challenging to say the least as the ground became very slippery under foot with myself and fellow archer John both falling. Fortunately neither of us sustained any real damage other than a a few thorns, though at one stage we wondered whether John had strained his hand.
For the day we were joined by father and son double act John and Ben Straw. Not sure what they are feeding Ben but I’m sure he’s grown again.

Ben and John Straw

Ben and John Straw

The course was a full 40 target 3d one with mixed sizes of targets and distances, with the normal break for lunch for an hour. LEFA had over 200 archers attend and devour the food off the lunch menu. Fortunately the heaviest showers weren’t during the lunch break or I think we might have been even wetter. I know a few people retired at lunch, due to weather I think.
As I said the poor weather made the ground slippery but also had the effect of lowering the tree canopy making some of the longer targets very difficult for lower poundage bows or for longbows that have a long cast. It also meant arrows would catch the canopy and skip off into the undergrowth. Resulting in time lost  searching for arrows, John lost 3 this way.
LEFA have come under criticism for the shoot being too hard and not up to their usual standard. I think this is a little unfair. The shoot was challenging with some targets being further than normal but not all and I have been to other shoots that have been far worse.
The weather played a major part in the problems on the day and I’ve tried to summarise the issues here.

  1. Rain made people wet and wet archers get cold and grumpy.  Kids get tired, feather fetchings become useless or at least less effective.  The can’t do much about weather, believe me I think there are many that would love to be able to.
  2. Rain brought tree canopy down making challenging shots, very difficult.  So maybe an inspection on the morning to prune trees would have helped but on the day organisers will be trying to sort parking, booking people in, etc etc
  3. Paths became slippery  due to the rain which slowed movement. Short of laying new paths etc not much can be done. Maybe a few steps or ropes hand rails might have helped but they had tried to cut in steps they just got worn away.

Despite all these problems it was still a good shoot, just not one of their best. So thanks to all the guys at LEFA. Dead ground was used on a number of shots and so was the undergrowth to hide distances.  Though I think shorter archers suffered as the bracken seems to have shot up.
Sharon had an off day, we all have them and when it happens there is little you can do. But it was one of those days for a number of archers and it saw her  not shooting as well as she can. Ben too was having an off day though he has swapped arrows recently, new bow limbs and has not been practicing due to school commitments.
Though I think Sharon had the shot of the day on the goat with a great 24. Well done.

3D goat at LEFA

3D goat at LEFA

One thing LEFA did do is angle some of the 3d targets and this made it harder to judge size and distances. It also resulted in a few glance offs.
The afternoon was slow not due to catching the group in front, more to do with taking our time to navigate the slippery paths, fortunately the weather improved (rain stopped) which is why there are no photos of the morning. My camera was buried under waterproofs.

Sharon in her summer shooting clothing

Sharon in her summer shooting clothing

Will we return ?

I know some people may have been put off returning to LEFA but we will, just not next time as we will be course laying for our shoot. Oh, how did we get on?

Almost forgot. Despite Sharon not shooting well she won gold with 518, Ben won in his class too, John retired as I think weather and his hand was giving him grief. I also won in my class with 618. Not too bad considering I didn’t get any 24s all day. It was only the second time Sharon and I have both placed 1st at a shoot.

LEFA trophy

LEFA trophy

As always thanks for reading.