Shoot report – Severn Valley – October 2014

Archers waiting to start

Archers waiting to start

Last weekend saw us even busier than normal as we prepared for the club shoot. Saturday we were at the wood early to sort through the targets, stake them in position, finalise shots, re-felt some of the bridges and generally put finishing touches to the course in readiness for the Sunday shoot. When I say finishing touches it still took from 8 am until gone 4:30pm. I’d like to thank those in the club who helped on Saturday and in the run up.
Sunday was shoot day and at the beginning of the week the forecasts had predicted rain and wind but we got lucky. The day was dry and sunny.

Target 5 - brown bear 3d

Target 5 – brown bear 3d

So Sunday would see SVYF host their autumn shoot with approximately 170 archers of different classes descend on our wood. The club runs two shoots a year one in spring and one in autumn with the entire course being reset between each shoot.

Target 4 - 3D Ram

Target 4 – 3D Ram

This was the second course we had put our names to officially in the past five the club had set since we joined. Though we had helped out on the others we hadn’t been the primary course layers.
Despite having over thirty people drop out over concerns about the weather we had glorious late autumn sunshine all day. Though in fairness it was a little windy in the more exposed parts of the wood. Think the one downside was the noise from the local shotgun club which were hosting an event the same day.

One of the long shots 3D Ram

One of the long shots 3D Ram

The course itself comprised of 36 targets mainly 3ds with a half dozen paper faces spread out over the course. Sharon and I had helped Nigel, Birnie and Jason lay targets 1-18 so we were keen to see what people thought. As always SVYF members marshall the club shoot helping archers search for lost arrows etc.

Raising boar 3D

Raising boar 3D

In all the day appeared to flow well with only a few hold ups which may simply have been caused by some archers naturally shooting more slowly than others.
Feedback has been positive with archers enjoying the challenge of the course.
Thanks for reading.

Shoot Report – Long Eaton – May 2014

Archers at LEFA shoot

Archers at LEFA shoot

Last weekend we headed north towards Long Eaton club shoot in Leicestershire.
Despite it being a bank holiday weekend, the weather was good with bright sunshine and blue skies and no rain!! This meant I was able to get a load of photos this time unlike the Pride Park shoot at Easter.
The course was a full 40 3Ds and billed as a warm up for the NFAS 3D championships in a few weeks, which I think may have put some off attending as there were only about 120 or so attending, which was a shame as it was a great course.
You can see past shoot reports Summer Solstice 2013
The woods looked Lovely with all the bluebells out which made it a very picturesque setting.
Bluebells at Long Eaton wood

Bluebells at Long Eaton wood

The course layers had done a great job with very good target placement with some great use of the ground. The use of dead ground and the dips and hollows was excellent. Those that shot well earned their points.
I don’t think any shots were stretched though there weren’t any easy shots.

The bison looked great in a carpet of bluebells.
Bisson Shot

Bisson Shot

Another nice one was the owl half way up a tree.
3D owl shot

3D owl shot

LEFA second target

LEFA second target

Nice to see target bosses behind most of the 3Ds to catch wayward arrows and the fact they’d camouflaged them to make them less obvious meant they didn’t spoil the shot.
Sharon shooting at LEFA

Sharon shooting at LEFA

I’m not sure about some of the new small 3d targets they were trialing at the shoot though.  They look good but are quite dense.

Small 3D hare

Small 3D hare

Sharon broke an arrow hitting one and my only blank of the day was after I hit one 3 times in the chest and got 3 glance offs. Think the problem is the way they are moulded makes some areas very dense.
Having said this it is nice to see some new 3Ds and I liked the running hare. It is very hard for shoot organisers to source small targets and I know target 7 which we started on which was a small fish that you shot nearly vertically down to was shot out by the end of the day.
Speaking with a couple of other archers they had similar experiences. I also had the opportunity to speak to the organisers and I think they are going to review some of the smallest ones. Always good when organisers listen to feedback and Long Eaton appear to have done this based on the quality of this shoot.  Thanks guys and well done.

There were a couple of predator / prey shots  one using a lovely 3D pheasant taking flight from a big cat.
For those not familiar with predator prey shots they work like this. You shoot at the predator first and if you hit with your first arrow you get a chance to shoot the prey for bonus points.  Where I don’t mind the idea of bonus points or predator prey shots.
I’m not a fan of predator prey shots where you can score full points on the prey if you hit. Maybe a bonus 10 points if you hit the prey but I think it can open up too great a points difference if you can score up to 20 or 24 points on the prey. Hawk do these shots as second arrow scoring on the prey which is more balanced. Personal view and shouldn’t be seen as a criticism of the course.
In general the day flowed well with only a couple of hold ups at the predator prey shots which is normal.
Lucky shot at LEFA just held into target

Lucky shot at LEFA just held into target

I didn’t shoot well after lunch actually to be fair I was shooting pretty poorly at times which is a shame as it would be good to shoot the course when I was shooting well. Probably due to too much work and not enough practice. Sharon came away with a first in ladies hunting tackle

Think the only thing that could have made it a better shoot was to make it a shoot through and not have a lunch break, although the club don’t think this would be practical.
In all I think it would be fair to say it was one of the best courses they have put on if not the best. Well done all involved. Here’s hoping the 3D championships courses are as good.
Thanks, as always, for reading.

Course and Target Laying – A clear picture

So in the last post on course laying ideas I made reference to distances addressing a few things to possibly consider. In this post I’m going to look at target size and choice. I know in some societies they always shoot circular targets of varying sizes and over marked distances.

In the NFAS we shoot printed animal shapes and pictures, with marked scoring zones or 3D targets. Both over unmarked distances, so this is what I will cover in this post.

So it might seem obvious. Large target is easy to hit, right? Well maybe not, so lets see if I can debunk a couple of myths concerning target faces.

Myth number one – A large picture = large target

Not always, so to start here is a word of warning on target faces and face selection. Just because it is a large printed sheet of paper doesn’t mean the target is large or scoring zone is equally large. There are a few targets where the picture is large but the target animal itself in the picture or scoring zones in the animal aren’t. A good example of this is shown below and is what I tend to call the rhododendron deer because of the bush shown in the background.

Deer

Deer

The target face is quite large but the first thing to note is the animal is not that large on the face, secondly the scoring lines are some distance in from edge of the animal. This wolf image is another example.

Wolf picture

Wolf picture

Myth two –  all targets have the same scoring zones.

There are probably thousands of different target faces out there (Merlin  JVD Delta Maple leaf etc) and hundreds of 3d targets. Here are a few Pheasant images

Delta Pheasant

Delta Pheasant

JVD Pheasant

JVD Pheasant

Mapleleaf Pheasant

Mapleleaf Pheasant

You can have a dozen images of deer or rams and each has slightly different scoring zones, some following the line of the animal others have the scoring line much further in making the face look larger while in fact it’s not. So you might like to consider this when setting up the target and selecting a suitable target face. If you want to make a shoot easier choose targets with larger scoring zones.
3Ds are the same with each manufacturer being slightly different and if they have been repaired by the club then chances are the scoring zones maybe different.

Simple Plea

Please, please, please don’t repeat target faces on a course. There is no need on a 36 / 40 shot course to repeat any target face or 3D.
There is nothing more depressing than walking up to a shot and going oh it’s 16 yards so must be a racoon!
I’ve shot courses where in 36 targets there were multiple repeated target faces of raccoon (3) deer (twice) ground squirrel (2-3). It reflects badly on the club and can spoil the day.

Size of target face or 3D

Well this is kind of obvious or is it? You don’t put a small target at long distance as you’ll be accused of stretching shots or being in the target preservation club.
But put a large face at comparatively short distance can confuse people as they look for the trick. Others will relax and not concentrate and end up with a 16 rather than the 20 they were expecting or even worse having to take a second arrow. We saw this with our last shoot where we put a multiple shot in (see posting). Another example is the old Rhino shot shown below.

Our Target 4 Paper face Rhino

Our Target 4 Paper face Rhino

This rhino paper face is just about 34 yards away from the first shooting peg for an adult, well within the normal distance you see it at. Yet many misjudged it on our recent shoot.

Merlin Rhino

Merlin Rhino

Possibly because they were expecting it to be further than it was.

Managing faces on the day

When replacing a target face because its shot out make sure you position the replacement face exactly where the old one was so all archers are shooting the same distance or height. (I’ll do a later post on how many faces you might need for a shoot, and preparation and mounting them)

Useful tip – There are a few target faces which have great ground cover or settings. The JVD boar is one that works well if there is leaf cover on the ground as it merges with the target.

JVD Boar

JVD Boar

You can see how good it looks from the red peg.

First view from Red peg

First view from Red peg

Targets at an angle

There have been a few shoots recently where targets whether paper or 3D have been angled.
The result of this is it reduces the scoring area but it tends to increase the damage to both 3Ds and bosses as the foam is torn or ripped.
I’m not a fan of putting 3Ds at an angle promote tearing of 3d as arrows glance off.

Sharons arrow

Sharons arrow is the top one.

In my view Small 3Ds are not always worth while as they have a smaller area so hits are concentrated into one area. I know some manufacturers are looking at this. See the long life targets link a friend posted a while back.

If you find this useful or have any questions then please contact me.
As always thanks for reading.