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Shoot Report – NFAS Indoor Championships- January 2025

Yes you did read that correctly this shoot report, the first for 2025, is about the National Field Archery Society first ever indoor championships held in January 2025.

Some of you will be aware that I have recorded and released a couple of podcasts already providing an insight into the event. The first (109) gave my thoughts on the event setup, theme, targets and in the second (110) there was a more personal view of the anxiety I felt over the weekend. Links to both are shown below so please have a listen and let me know what you think.

I’m not going to repeat everything I said in the podcasts here, instead I going to try and give an overview or summary.

There are also a couple of videos on my YouTube channel of the first and second days.

There is no doubt there was a huge amount of effort made by the organisers for the event which saw 2 sport halls filled with 40 targets each, the majority of which were 3Ds. All the 3Ds had some form of backstop target boss for wayward arrows, with hall B having a purpose built frame running the full length of the hall, on which were suspended nets. Added to this were the 300 plus archers filling the shooting pegs, it did get a little cramped at times.

The competition was spread over a 2 day weekend, with competitors shooting one hall Saturday and the other Sunday. We were all shooting Hunting tackle so would shoot B hall Saturday and A hall Sunday.

Each hall was themed with Hall A being Jungle / Africa seeing crocodiles, zebra and other African themed targets, this gave way to a mountain region with polar bears, elk, mountain goats.

In hall B there was the Jurassic Park section with a variety of dinosaur targets, giving way to the woodland area where countless Christmas trees had been positioned, the final area being the ocean section with various fish, turtle and aquatic targets.

It was a very new experience for many of the archers present including myself. The closest I had come to shooting indoors was when I ran a “have a go session” at a local school several years ago. This was obviously something completely different, made obvious by the noise. When shooting a normal outdoor field course you will hear the sound of your group and maybe the group ahead or behind you. Inside its very different as you heard all 40 archers who were shooting on the line and the archers behind the shooting line. Especially loud if they missed the target in one hall and hit the wall as there was a very loud thump.

A couple of things I took from the event was firstly how amazingly friendly and cooperative everyone was, especially on the shooting line. This was really important as on the shooting line there were times when you had to take it in turn with the archer to your side to shoot.

Secondly, I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the archers there who helped support our young son in keeping his spirits up over the 2 days of competition, especially on the second day. He was getting very low at times and was really struggling with some of the distances he was expected to shoot. Thank you, it gave him the confidence to get through the 2 days.

On that note I personally feel that expecting a 7 year old to shoot some of the distances was unfair. Anything past 15 yards and his 16lb 54 inch recurve drawing 19 inches, struggled to be accurate at. There were shot after shots where his arrow would slide along the floor as it didn’t reach. Give him targets he could reach and he nailed them. Don’t get me wrong, they did put a couple of alternative targets out in each hall for some of the long shots, but only a couple. There were countless times he was still expected to shoot over 20 yards, the same distance as the adults.

Surely the society has enough funds to purchase target bosses to allow this. There were a couple of shots on Sunday he could not physically see due to positioning of other targets. I know this is sounding very negative but if the society wants to encourage young families and young archers then they need to consider this. If a child is put off going to such events then you don’t just lose them but also the parents, parents who might be coaches, club committee members or just active club members.

The marshalling and control of the shooting line was excellent on both days. They adapted the issues that occurred such as repositioning of catching bosses behind 3Ds when it became evident they weren’t catching the arrows.

For the event they had changed the normal scoring, meaning every archer had to shoot 2 arrows at every target. Each arrow would score 12 inner kill /10 kill / 8 wound. Since I had been struggling with my health since early December I decided to drop poundage and shoot my 40lb bow rather than 46lb, which was a I feel was a good call. Though it was not until the Friday before I was able to find some arrows from the forest of arrows I have that appeared to work well.

I’ve spoken to a few archers since the event and the ones I have spoken to preferred elements of B hall, possible down to the decorations of trees. Though B hall did see far more shooting at angles across the hall. This posed an interesting problem when at times you might be shooting at a 45 degree angle to your right and the archer to your right was shooting at a 45 degree angle to the left. I felt there were a lot of targets in hall A which were set at the back wall and maybe they could have staggered the distances more.

Despite being indoors, it was a cold event, partly due to poor heating in the venues halls and partly due to us not having much pace to move about. At an outdoor shoot you are walking between shooting pegs so more active. In contrast here you weren’t moving more than a few feet back off the line.

In contrast hall A didn’t have as many crossing shots but felt a lot more cramped on the shooting line at times, where you were very close (less than a couple of feet) to the person either side of you. This was very obvious on Sunday when a freestyle archer was to our side with side bars.

Saturday would prove to be a long day for arches. To be fare this was partly due to a marshal being taken ill and ambulance being called, which delayed the start in hall B until 11. Thankfully she was ok, though a little bruised after her fall and made an appearance on the Sunday. There was then a second stop when we were instructed to move our cars off the playing field by hall A due to an incident involving an arrow exiting the building (hall A ).

I was surprised at how well I coped with the pressure of so many people around me on the first day. I was able to control my anxiety of being watched and focus on my shot sequence, even though at times I was the last one to be shooting not only in my group but the hall. All this despite one of the first targets I shot I missed the 3D and stuck it in the wall , having gone through the archery net. It proved to be a tough arrow as I used it for the rest of the tournament.

All these delays meant I had not had the lunch break until 2.30 pm and we didn’t finish shooting until gone 6.30 pm. with nearly an hour drive home we opted for a fish and chips supper and early to bed. Sadly I didn’t have a restful night and Sunday was an earlier start for us as Admin was open 8-9 rather than 9-10 on Saturday. Add to this a motorway diversion we had to set off earlier to allow more time to get there. There were a few jokes as to whether there would be enough light to use the practise area which was outside the buildings.

It would be fair to say I was struggling more on Sunday and the second podcast explores this in more detail. I felt a great deal of anxiety and inability to focus. I know part of this was trying to keep my sons spirits up, but also I was not feeling at ease. In hindsight I think I felt less at ease and partly because I think I wanted to shoot well and repeat the first days shooting, but was considerably more tired. I think this was highlighted best by me blanking the last target of the day with both arrows. that mistake would cost me a placing.

As for whether it could be improved for the next time, then I think it is fair to say yes, there are a few things that the organisers might want to consider.

  • maybe less targets, say 36 rather than 40 which would give more space.
  • alternative targets for junior archers set closer, more reasonable distances
  • more space on the shooting line between archers, especially when shooting at an angle across one another.
  • target positioning so not shooting through others arrows.
  • as them to switch the heating earlier please.

I was asked if I would go again and I think I possibly would. Overall there were enjoyable elements and there was lots of effort made by the organisers team and attending archers who recognised this was a new style of event.

So how did we get on?

Sharon came away with a 3rd place in Hunting Tackle, our son shot both days and came away with first and me 4th. The full results are available on the NFAS website.

As always thanks for reading and if you want a full breakdown of my thoughts have a listen the podcasts.

Shoot Report – Thornbury – March 2023

Thornbury NFAS shoot

The trip to Thornbury would prove to be an early start for us. The drive on a good Sunday is well over an hour. Unfortunately, we were aware of several patches of road works on the motorway. In addition to the estimated travel time, Thornbury had promoted an early start to the shooting of 9.30 am. Ironically they had to delay the start of the competition for some late attendees to arrive.

If you are interested you can read a shoot report from an earlier visit to this club. The good news was we enjoyed good weather for an early spring day with only a slight chill in the air. 

The course would consist of 40 3D targets, (to be more accurate there were 42 targets out. I’ll get to that later in the write-up). We would be joined by Mark shooting traditional bowhunter. Mark would prove to be a great sport and companion throughout the day. 

Thornbury is another club that set out wasp pegs, but not on every shot. They also have all compound classes shoot from these wasp pegs, not just sighted ones. I would rather see wasp pegs on all shots if they are to be used, even if they are next to the red peg.

Those of you who have shot at Thornbury or read one of my previous posts will know the course has a tall tower shot which is probably one of their signature shots. This time, adults would shoot at a large grizzly 3D and Juniors at a 3D turkey at the tower’s base. I enjoy that shot, simply for the opportunity to shoot something like that. The only downside is I shot all three arrows as I couldn’t see where my arrows had landed. The sound of the impact made us think I was hitting the boss behind. I was in with my first. Guess I need to go to Specsavers for new glasses.

There were some nicely placed targets, designed to catch you out. Maybe it is me not shooting as much but I did feel that some of the targets were a long way for the red peg and maybe moving some of the junior pegs forward would also help. I wonder whether clubs are having to increase the distance to offer a challenge to the compound classes. I don’t know. It could equally be me not being used to shooting as much as I used to.

There were several shots requiring you to up your game and focus, such as the standing bear 3D between tree trunks, there was a clever use of a large legless 3D dear or elk making it look like a bedded deer.

Another particularly challenging shot, at first sight, was the standing hare 3D through a hollow tree trunk. I know a couple of people I spoke to commented on some of the 3ds being quartered, making them a greater challenge. 

Thornbury shot through the circle at 3D Hare

The woodland the club occupies is a mix of open woodland allowing for longer shots to quite dense areas making for darker shots, through the undergrowth. There was only one area where I mentioned to the marshals I thought was a bit tight on space and I think this might have been due to a recent tree fall.

The day flowed quite well in the morning especially, though there was a bit of confusion at food stops. The organisers had decided to allow jumping. 

Jumping

Here is a quick definition of jumping for those who have not heard the term before. Normally when you get to food stops, you check to see who is in the group in front of you and wait for them to have their food. Following them out after you’ve given them time to clear the next target. This also gives you time to eat and rest, the group behind you waiting for you to have your break and so on. You note when the group in front of you goes off to the next peg and leave them time to shoot it, score and clear that before you set off. The group behind you doing the same.

Jumping is when a group behind you doesn’t want to wait for you when you stop and instead goes straight to the next peg. Hence the term, as they jump past you. The advantage is that faster archers can jump past slower groups. The disadvantage is if archers at the end of the shoot are helping by bringing in the targets, you could have 3D targets removed before everyone has shot them. Another disadvantage is you can have archers finishing earlier because they have jumped several times and then want to walk off the course while several other groups of archers are still shooting. Since Thornbury had said there was nothing to bring in they were allowing archers to jump. This made it a little confusing when at food stops as you weren’t sure who was in front of you. 

Overall, it wasn’t a big problem just a little confusing for those who have been jumped.

Very sociable gathering

It was great to catch up with some archers I haven’t seen for a while, especially Patrick who was marshalling on the day. Patrick and I have known each other since doing our coaching course over 10 years ago. Speaking of marshals, I have to say how friendly they all were, chatting and walking with us as we went around the course. They really seemed to make an effort to help archers enjoy themselves.

Special shot 

As I mentioned the organisers had designed a special shot as part of the course, which was in fact 3 shots. You had 1 minute from standing on the 1st peg to take a shot, then walk to the next peg identify where the 3d target was, and shoot it. You then move on to find the 3rd and final peg, identifying the target and shoot it. The third target was very cleverly set, hanging upside down under a fallen log across the stream, back the way you’d walked. So not that obvious to spot or gauge, being in shadow.

I wasn’t sure about this or how well it would work when initially explained at the start of the shoot. As it was it would be one of our last shots of the day.

I felt it worked very well, offering a different form of challenge with cleverly placed 3D targets. The distance between pegs worked well as did the selection of targets. Well done, Thornbury course layers on introducing something different.

Personal performance.

I shot better than I was expecting, with this being partly down to my current mindset or outlook when it comes to archery. I know I haven’t been shooting often and went with no expectations of doing well. I blanked one target on the course but I worked at not letting that get to me. Reminding myself that I hadn’t been shooting much and should not expect to hit things. I was feeling tired for the last 6 or 7 shots, as it was a long day.

I was able to try out my new hoodie I picked up from Northern Movement stand at the Outdoor Expo show at the NEC the day before. It was very comfortable to shoot in, large enough as to not offer any restrictions to movement, but fitted enough to keep you warm. 

 In summary, it was an enjoyable day but a long day. We were all glad to get home.

Thanks for reading.

Shoot report – Centaura Bowmen – March 2023

So, I’m slowly getting back into the hang of writing these shoot reports. I hope you are enjoying reading them. It’s been a very long time since I wrote one for Centaura, looking at my past write up I had to go back to 2018.

Considering the crazy weather we had been having in the preceding week or so running up to the shoot, with rain, snow followed by a rapid thaw the Sunday morning weather was pretty good for an early spring day. Bright, with it not getting cold until about 4 pm.

The club is situated in a small woodland not far from Derby, so just under an hour travel for us despite the motorway being slow. The course would be a twice round 21, being a mix of paper and 3D targets. Normally a  twice rounds course are 18 or 20 so, 21 was a little unusual. We would be shooting with Roger and Julie for the first time in what seems like years, both shooting bowhunter.

There was a good turnout on the day with many pegs having 4 or more archers but I know they had some no-shows, which is always a shame for clubs.

Unfortunately part way around the first half I had to escort our son off the course due to him being taken ill. We’d like to take this opportunity to thank the marshals who helped on the day to escort me and my son off the course. (He’s feeling much better now after spending the afternoon wrapped in a blanket in the car with his Mam. Thanks). This would mean Sharon and I each effectively shot half the course or once round, rather than twice round.

Centaura club is housed in a small site, with little space to accommodate all the cars, meaning once you are parked up you are there for the day.

The progress around the course slowed in the afternoon with periods of delays and waiting around. I’m uncertain of the cause. It could be due to numbers per peg, I know there were some new archers there. I’m sure if I could identify what causes events to slow then every club would be beating the way to my door for the secret.

There were some downhill shots at very steep angles. Think shooting off a cliff near straight down, the type of shot you don’t often have the opportunity to shoot. This is thanks to the nature of the terrain as I think the site was once a quarry.

3D Deer bottom on quarry
3D Deer bottom on quarry

An example of such a shot is the near vertical shot down onto a bedded ram 3D where you shoot all your arrows from the top of the cliff. The marshals collect your arrows, using a rope and pully to hoist your arrows back to you so you can continue along the ridge line to the next shot.

3D goat at bottom on cliff
3D goat at bottom on cliff

The flip side of this is the number of steps as you climb and descend multiple stairs. It proves to be a good workout for your legs.

Personally, I feel there were a couple of shots on the course that could have worked with a slightly larger target for the distance, like the 3D beaver and 3D badger, but these were in the minority.

Having not been out shooting at many competitions it was great to have the opportunity to meet up with some readers of this site and listeners to the podcast. If you do see me at a shoot pop over and have a chat.

One thing I liked to see was the map at the central gathering point, showing the woodland and the locations of the targets. It’s good for archers to have a rough orientation of the wood but I am sure it would prove invaluable to any emergency services who might be called in an incident.

Personal performance

I decided to shoot the 38lb recurve in hunting tackle class (that is a non compound bow, with wooden arrows, feather fletchings and no sights). I ended up not shooting the full course but I did feel fatigued. The upside was I managed to shoot it with some degree of accuracy and consistency. It is still a long way to go but small steps in the right direction.

If you visit Centaura clubs’ Facebook page you will be able to see a gallery of photos from the day. I’ve chosen one for my new profile picture.

Thanks for reading.